How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Can you list every album you have ever listened to?

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Why is my coworker suddenly being so mean towards then being nice like nothing happened? She is nice with everyone but me.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Do older men realize that younger women usually do not prefer them?

Kabir (a weaver)

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Have you ever secretly watched someone while they were doing something private?

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

How do people break a narcissist man's ego?

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Can you name a female actress who has had bad timing or luck in her film career?

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Did your siblings abuse you growing up? Not your parents, specifically your siblings, or other children in the household you were raised with.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Now here in this verse

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

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From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

NOW…

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

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The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Sain (a barber)

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

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Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

CONCLUSION:

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ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

I am like a fish out of water,

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!